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Title: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Dappers on June 27, 2012, 02:04 am
Hey everyone,

This is pretty much my first post, so hi  :). Ever since I found this site its been a goldmine for my debauchery in university  8). I take every precaution possible and have made 7 successful purchases so far.

However one has went very sour. I don't want to name any vendor just yet as the situation is rather confusing and I'd like your input.

I'm from the UK and usually order from there since the UK vendors are great, there is no customs to go through so 100% success rate, but recently i decided "fuck it" and go purchase some nice weed from the 'olive oil' country.

This vendors English language skills were shit to say the least, but i could understand somethings he said and he was cool and we got on well. So fuck it, I bought the weed and FE due to his rules (he had good stats). He linked me a tracker in a different language that said a parcel was sent to GB (great britain) and that was it, the tracker just ends after that. A week later after the tracker it still hadn't arrived so I messaged him nicely, and he told me to wait, its been through customs etc, with loads of smiley faces (pretty strange), I thought "fuck it, he's right. Im just paranoid, it will come."

I give it another while then I message him back today. Thats where things turn sour. I ask a politely for a 50% refund which is promised on his page, then he starts calling me a scammer. He messages me my own details and says something along the lines of in google translate "give me a 5/5 or ill post your details on the forum" and thats where he showed my address and my name and country. This has scared me a lot...

It made me realize something, it was easy of him to blackmail me like this. He seen an newbie purchaser (had 3 buys at the time), and a product no one had bought yet. He could of sent anything to GB with a dud address and a crappy tracker that I had to use Google translate to understand. Now im not even getting a refund and hes blackmailing me with my own details on the internet. Sigh this is depressing.

Ive lost around 16-18 coins to this.
What should I do?
Just take it like ive been fucked?
Or maybe he did send it and hes the one suspicious of me?

All I want is some fucking good green, my feet up and a game of thrones season 2 marathon.

EDIT: Aren't addresses not automatically deleted or something after it is sent? Why has he kept mine?
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: tomorrowman on June 27, 2012, 02:19 am
a vendor should never keep any addresses of clients after the package has been shipped. in my opinion if a vendor post anyone's address on the forums his account should be revoked.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: PlutoPete on June 27, 2012, 06:28 am
Send SR Admins details of the threat to post your details, they take an extremely dim view of vendors that break the rules and that is rule number 1.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Limetless on June 27, 2012, 06:31 am
Yeah fuck that shit. Any vendor keeping addresses needs to get strung up. There is only ONE reason why you would ever need to do that, and it ain't to send fucking Christmas cards....
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Crooked on June 27, 2012, 06:47 am
I'd be fucking livid... but I also wouldn't have came and posted this shit on the forums so soon. The guy made a pretty serious and doable threat.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Limetless on June 27, 2012, 06:51 am
Who the fuck is this vendor? Don't give him an inch mate. I am guessing by Olive Oil country you mean Italy, if so respond with this - Succhiare il cazzo di figa madri puttana

Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Dappers on June 27, 2012, 09:07 am
Thanks a lot for the support guys  :). Yeah, I thought something was fishy when he threatened to post my address and name on the forums to stink me out or something. And yeah he is from Italy, I hate racism but I was mugged outside the Colosseum and now I feel mugged on here. Love to get a grip of that guy  >:(

How do I take this up with the mods?
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: UKMJ on June 27, 2012, 09:10 am
you can message the mods on the SR site but to be fair you should share this guys vendor name so other buyers can beware of him. requiring you to FE is an issue anyway but threatening to post your details is bang out of order.

name and shame this prick.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: danknugsdun on June 27, 2012, 09:18 am
Put his name out... Warn other buyers not to do business with him. If the guy is keeping addresses he needs to be taken the fuck off here and fast.

Dank
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Dappers on June 27, 2012, 09:28 am
He's got a good rep. But his way of dealing with things is strange  :-\ 

His page:  http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/2cd7b36b76

There is his vendor page, scroll down a bit and read his broken language anti-scammer bit - "THIS IS A NOTICE FOR THOSE SCAMMERS". He says he has 100% success rate with all tracking. He even said that on a new listing(my weed) nobody bought yet: "100% success rate". Yet this tracker he provides only goes as far as saying its been shipped to a country and then it ENDS. All that does is apparently cover his OWN ass and leave the buyer with his dick in his hands because he cannot prove whether it came or not. Unlike other trackers I've received in the past that went right up to my doorstep or local post office. On top of that I would have to SIGN for his bloody weed I bought, would there not be some way of him knowing I signed it or what? I do not understand.

Also his refund policy:"★★★★★★★★★★★★★profile updated for shipping traking 50% REFUND 16/05/2012★★★★★★★★★★★★"
I ordered using the expensive shipping with tracking.

His 100 rep is hard to disagree with, and its hard to doubt his sincerity, but I was a new buyer and now he threatens to expose my details? I'm sticking to the UK and Germany after this.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: LouisCyphre on June 27, 2012, 01:13 pm
He's got a good rep. But his way of dealing with things is strange  :-\ 

His page:  http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/2cd7b36b76

Ah, him.  He's also not the brightest candle in the church.  He posted his GPG secret key in another thread and uses some Java client instead of a proper installation (I wouldn't trust Java with my GPG keys).  He even asked me to create a secret key for him because he couldn't work it out (I declined).  None of these things are good signs in a vendor.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Dappers on June 27, 2012, 04:03 pm
He's got a good rep. But his way of dealing with things is strange  :-\ 

His page:  http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/2cd7b36b76

Ah, him.  He's also not the brightest candle in the church.  He posted his GPG secret key in another thread and uses some Java client instead of a proper installation (I wouldn't trust Java with my GPG keys).  He even asked me to create a secret key for him because he couldn't work it out (I declined).  None of these things are good signs in a vendor.

Yeah and his GPG did not work for me too, given it worked with all the other vendors. Plus I downloaded the GPG client again, and again, and again. Tried using new methods of encryption but his key never worked, so he asked me to use privnote which I did not like.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Green on June 27, 2012, 04:49 pm
Seems like you aren't the only one mate. He has a little history of being abusive.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=21242.0
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=23870.0

It's always a good thing to search the vendor before making any kind of purchase. Hate to state the obvious  ::)

Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: tomorrowman on June 27, 2012, 06:50 pm
Seems like you aren't the only one mate. He has a little history of being abusive.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=21242.0
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=23870.0

It's always a good thing to search the vendor before making any kind of purchase. Hate to state the obvious  ::)
yet he has 100% rating still. how is that?
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Dappers on June 27, 2012, 07:25 pm
Seems like you aren't the only one mate. He has a little history of being abusive.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=21242.0
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=23870.0

It's always a good thing to search the vendor before making any kind of purchase. Hate to state the obvious  ::)

Yeah, I know, and I've learned my lesson. I am just used to the quality services of the UK, German and Dutch vendors who have good language skills and customer skills.

As for his rating? He promises refunds if the rating stays 5/5, except for me in which I think he thought he could get some easy coin off as I had a 4 purchase history then. God knows what else he does, maybe a lot of multiple self account buying? Im no expert.

The guy is fishy as hell. I've sent a message to him again telling him about this post, his blackmailing which is stated blatantly on his profile page towards "scammers". I assure you im not a scammer as the silkroad is like a candy-shop of drugs that I plan on purchasing more from and I've got the coin to do it. I've sent a message to the SR mods and no reply, I'm sure they are busy but I want my refund. Will anything come of this?
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: kryptoz on June 27, 2012, 07:33 pm
From the vendors product reviews:
Quote
FE for trusted seller.cant wait till it gets here
:s

I can't believe people are still FE'ing for his products, this shit is ridiculous, vendors like this should've been delt with at the first sign of customer abuse, especially if they have done nothing wrong but try to purchase your goods!
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: oscarzululondon on June 27, 2012, 07:33 pm
The guy is fishy as hell. I've sent a message to him again telling him about this post, his blackmailing which is stated blatantly on his profile page towards "scammers". I assure you im not a scammer as the silkroad is like a candy-shop of drugs that I plan on purchasing more from and I've got the coin to do it. I've sent a message to the SR mods and no reply, I'm sure they are busy but I want my refund. Will anything come of this?

Because of his blackmail it's likely that the Silk Road mod's will simply remove the money from his account and put it back into yours. They take a while to do stuff though, as you said, very busy. Remember they need to question him and get his side of the story, giving him a reasonable amount of time to respond. Could take a few weeks to get sorted.

Good luck  :)
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Dappers on June 27, 2012, 07:43 pm
The guy is fishy as hell. I've sent a message to him again telling him about this post, his blackmailing which is stated blatantly on his profile page towards "scammers". I assure you im not a scammer as the silkroad is like a candy-shop of drugs that I plan on purchasing more from and I've got the coin to do it. I've sent a message to the SR mods and no reply, I'm sure they are busy but I want my refund. Will anything come of this?

Because of his blackmail it's likely that the Silk Road mod's will simply remove the money from his account and put it back into yours. They take a while to do stuff though, as you said, very busy. Remember they need to question him and get his side of the story, giving him a reasonable amount of time to respond. Could take a few weeks to get sorted.

Good luck  :)

Yeah that's what I'm hoping man, thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Dappers on June 27, 2012, 07:59 pm
He read this forum post and took off the blackmailing threats off his profile. Plus now he sent me messages saying that he only does refunds for "express posting" even though his only posting is "fast delivery traking" that he states on his profile that offers a 50% refund rate.

"still say crap, I present you the receipt that has been delivered here in the forum no problem, and see that refund and only for express shipments read carefully my profile ,scammer, scammer"

This guy changes his profile, changes his refund methods to suit himself.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: oscarzululondon on June 27, 2012, 08:05 pm
He read this forum post and took off the blackmailing threats off his profile. Plus now he sent me messages saying that he only does refunds for "express posting" even though his only posting is "fast delivery traking" that he states on his profile that offers a 50% refund rate.

"still say crap, I present you the receipt that has been delivered here in the forum no problem, and see that refund and only for express shipments read carefully my profile ,scammer, scammer"

This guy changes his profile, changes his refund methods to suit himself.

I hope you saved his original profile somehow such as a PDF or took screenshots...
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: kryptoz on June 27, 2012, 08:11 pm
He read this forum post and took off the blackmailing threats off his profile. Plus now he sent me messages saying that he only does refunds for "express posting" even though his only posting is "fast delivery traking" that he states on his profile that offers a 50% refund rate.

"still say crap, I present you the receipt that has been delivered here in the forum no problem, and see that refund and only for express shipments read carefully my profile ,scammer, scammer"

This guy changes his profile, changes his refund methods to suit himself.

Like the post above me, you should've taken screenshots

HOWEVER

admins who have direct access to logs should be able to see if that statement is true, and depending on how the system logs see exactly what he changed. I could be wrong, but I had issues like this before and logs are always the most helpful and truthful way of figuring out situations like this :)
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Dappers on June 27, 2012, 08:20 pm
Yeah you are both right,  I should of taken screenshots of his profile. But his messages are enough to incriminate him alone before he changed his blackmailing on his profile page. He is now threatening me to stop posting on the forums or "i destroy you with my hands and you can count on this."

The predicament is, he believes I got the package, even though its a signed one on delivery. He accuses me of lying. He blackmailed me with my own details even though I have a good history to keep a 5/5 rating on his weed "or else". Now he says hes got a receipt and he can show the forums but it includes my details so I better shut up?

All I want is a 50% refund which was promised on his page using the postage i used ("fast delivery traking") and ill be on my way back to buying quality weed off UKpharm and co.

EDIT. typos
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Boris Badenov on June 27, 2012, 08:33 pm
Hello, does anybody know how to make those stars, and other symbols? I try looking at character map, but can't find answer. Natasha wants to make webpages with thse symbols in them. Can anybody help?

Da svedanya.

BB
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: oscarzululondon on June 27, 2012, 08:48 pm
Hello, does anybody know how to make those stars, and other symbols? I try looking at character map, but can't find answer. Natasha wants to make webpages with thse symbols in them. Can anybody help?

Da svedanya.

BB

Just copy paste them.

They're "unicode" characters, which means they look the same on every computer worldwide.

Here's a list for you:
http://panmental.de/symbols/info.htm
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: kryptoz on June 27, 2012, 08:49 pm
Quote
He is now threatening me to stop posting on the forums or "i destroy you with my hands and you can count on this."

Tell him to smd, he will not destroy you, and if "destroying" one person is worth sacrificing all of the good reviews hes had then he's just another class A fool

also, even if he was telling the truth that is NO way to deal with a problem if you're a vendor here, or anywhere to be exact. Vendors are supposed to destroy the address and info as soon as the package is sent, so this can't happen (also incase feds)
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Limetless on June 27, 2012, 09:31 pm
Yeah you are both right,  I should of taken screenshots of his profile. But his messages are enough to incriminate him alone before he changed his blackmailing on his profile page. He is now threatening me to stop posting on the forums or "i destroy you with my hands and you can count on this."

The predicament is, he believes I got the package, even though its a signed one on delivery. He accuses me of lying. He blackmailed me with my own details even though I have a good history to keep a 5/5 rating on his weed "or else". Now he says hes got a receipt and he can show the forums but it includes my details so I better shut up?

All I want is a 50% refund which was promised on his page using the postage i used ("fast delivery traking") and ill be on my way back to buying quality weed off UKpharm and co.

EDIT. typos

WTF...this guy is ridiculous. Don't even argue back to stuff like that mate, just literally say "Fuck you". If you have proof that you can show to the SR staff then they wont allow that shit at all.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: nomad bloodbath on June 27, 2012, 09:49 pm
I certainly don't like all the FE in his feedback that I am reading.
hmmmm.
nomad
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: redalloverthelandguyhere on June 27, 2012, 09:58 pm
Buddy, use UKpharm, or better still go for some genuine African bud at 90 or so an oz or 29 quid for 5 grams of kief. (swazibudbud888)

UK pharm are not cheap but they always have quality.

Look for other UK offers. Many grow so sell the crop and its a case of first come first served. Some are 'stealth' so always fav any good vendor as if they go stealth only fans will see the listings.

Not used bulldog as anyone stating you MUST leave 5/5 is not my kind of vendor.

Also he or she sells BTC via paypal.

You do not want to go there.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Dappers on June 27, 2012, 10:35 pm
I certainly don't like all the FE in his feedback that I am reading.
hmmmm.
nomad

Yeah its FE after FE after FE..

Quote
He is now threatening me to stop posting on the forums or "i destroy you with my hands and you can count on this."

Tell him to smd, he will not destroy you, and if "destroying" one person is worth sacrificing all of the good reviews hes had then he's just another class A fool

also, even if he was telling the truth that is NO way to deal with a problem if you're a vendor here, or anywhere to be exact. Vendors are supposed to destroy the address and info as soon as the package is sent, so this can't happen (also incase feds)

Yeah I know man. He just lashed out in a paragraph. He had a 50% refund policy with the shipping I used and I thought "ah well, at least ill get some coins back", so when I asked him about the unreceived package - for the 2nd time I think - he lashed out at me with my details and threatening to post them on the forums.

EDIT: What annoys me the most is that he claims constantly to have a 100% success rate with parcels yet I read some of his feedback saying they got a refund for parcels that never came. This guy is a liar, and hes only gone and changed his profile again.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Limetless on June 27, 2012, 10:38 pm
Also he or she sells BTC via paypal.

Lol....fuck that.
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Green on June 27, 2012, 11:53 pm
That guy is one 'L' short of a Bulldog.
Bad joke, I know  ::)
Title: Re: Think I got screwed over by a vendor
Post by: Limetless on June 28, 2012, 12:26 am
Buldog it takes a special type of dumbfuck to publicly post pictures of someones address on an illegal forum. Please refrain from being such a dumbfuck in future.

Locked, before any more retarded shit can happen.